Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/15/1996 08:04 AM House STA

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 HB 432 - VETERINARY LICENSING                                               
                                                                               
 The first order of business to come before the House State Affairs            
 Committee was HB 432.                                                         
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES called on George Dozier, Legislative Assistant to                 
 Representative Pete Kott to present the sponsor statement for HB
 432.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 0085                                                                   
                                                                               
 GEORGE DOZIER, Legislative Assistant to Representative Pete Kott,             
 said HB 432 was suggested by a local veterinarian in Eagle River              
 who felt the definition of the unauthorized practice of                       
 veterinarian medicine was too vague.  It was also discovered the              
 licensing statutes referenced examinations administered by the                
 National Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners and the American               
 Veterinary Association's Education Commission for Foreign                     
 Veterinary Graduates that no longer administered them.                        
 Consequently, the House Labor and Commerce Committee filed HB 432.            
 Mr. Dozier said it was a relatively simple bill.  The bill                    
 substituted the names of the examinations to bring the current                
 statutes into conformity with actual examination practices.  He               
 cited the examinations were now administered by the National Board            
 Examination Committee and the National Board Examination                      
 Committee's Education Commission for Foreign Veterinary Graduates.            
 He further said HB 432 defined the nature of unlicensed veterinary            
 practice for the state of Alaska and made it a criminal penalty -             
 a unclassified misdemeanor with a potential penalty of up to one              
 year in jail and a $10,000 fine.  The bill also required veterinary           
 technicians be licensed by the state.  He said there were                     
 veterinarians standing by in Anchorage to articulate their                    
 concerns.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0302                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES wondered about veterinary medicine in general, and                
 questioned if the bill prohibited dog mushers, for example, from              
 giving shots to their own dogs.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 0350                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DOZIER replied the bill was intended to not affect individuals            
 who cared for their own animals, but rather for individuals who               
 held themselves as a competent animal caregiver.                              
                                                                               
 Number 0368                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES replied, therefore, a dog musher such as Susan Butcher            
 could take care of her own dogs, but she could not take care of               
 anybody else's dog.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 0406                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DOZIER said, "I don't believe that that's the intent of the               
 bill."                                                                        
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES mentioned farmers who took care of their own animals.             
 She also mentioned artificial insemination, and wondered if a                 
 farmer could perform such a service.                                          
                                                                               
 MR. DOZIER replied, "I don't believe that it would have to be a               
 veterinarian, Madame Chair."                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 0414                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES further wondered about pet shops that sold animals                
 without a check-up, and questioned if there was a law that                    
 prohibited that.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 0470                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DOZIER said he did not know definitively if there a law that              
 prohibited a pet shop from selling diseased animals.  The intent of           
 HB 432, however, was to prohibit the unauthorized practice of                 
 veterinarian medicine, he asserted.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 0505                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CAREN ROBINSON mentioned the problems regarding the            
 humane societies and the ability to give the appropriate shots.               
 She suggested Mr. Dozier look into that matter further.                       
                                                                               
 Number 0549                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said she was concerned about the cost getting too high            
 for the benefits to a society, such as the humane society.                    
                                                                               
 Number 0577                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER questioned if the restrictions should             
 be placed on a person that performed the service for money rather             
 than a person that performed it for free.  He said he did not want            
 his neighbor who helped his dog with its broken leg to commit a               
 misdemeanor.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 0612                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES responded she remembered when it was illegal to cut               
 somebody else's hair in the state of Oregon.  The act did not                 
 delineate between a service charge or not.  It was protectionism              
 for the barbers and hairdressers.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 0660                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DOZIER referred the committee members to Section 7 which                  
 indicated the practice of veterinary medicine did mean for                    
 compensation.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 0674                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN said the questions had gone askew.  The              
 focus of HB 432 dealt with the practice of veterinarian medicine              
 and not what friends did for each other.  He suggested keeping the            
 focus on the practice of veterinarian medicine.                               
                                                                               
 Number 0728                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON suggested hearing from Catherine Reardon,             
 Department of Commerce and Economic Development, to explain the               
 lack of a zero fiscal note from the department.                               
                                                                               
 Number 0817                                                                   
                                                                               
 CATHERINE REARDON, Director, Central Office, Division of                      
 Occupational Licensing, Department of Commerce and Economic                   
 Development, said a fiscal note was not submitted because it was              
 not requested.  She said it would be a zero fiscal note from the              
 department and she would be happy to prepare one for the committee.           
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES replied, "it would be appreciated."                               
                                                                               
 Number 0840                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON questioned the zero fiscal note because the           
 bill stated the department would be setting up regulations, and               
 wondered if staff existed already.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 0856                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. REARDON replied the department had a regulation specialist and            
 the projects would compete with each other.  She stated there would           
 be advertising, and if the committee wanted, she could include the            
 public interest cost, but the department would generally absorb it            
 like any other regulation project.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 0889                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON wondered if this was a conformation to a              
 new law because it sounded like a lot of it was already in place.             
                                                                               
 MS. REARDON replied HB 432 was a clean-up of the existing statute.            
                                                                               
 Number 0909                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES stated the bill added veterinary technicians.                     
                                                                               
 MS. REARDON replied the bill allowed the board to adopt                       
 regulations.  The board currently licensed veterinary technicians,            
 but did not have the regulatory authority.  She stated the bill               
 improved the system.                                                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON moved that HB 432 move from the committee             
 with individual recommendations and zero fiscal notes including the           
 commitment from Catherine Reardon to provide a zero fiscal note               
 from the Department of Commerce and Economic Development.  Hearing            
 no objection, HB 432 was moved from the House State Affairs                   
 Committee.                                                                    
                                                                               

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